THE INCREDIBLE HULK trailer sucks. Plain and simple.
It’s taken a long time for Universal to show us a trailer for The Incredible Hulk reboot/restart but I gotta say, they might have been better off from showing us the big reveal of the big green guy completely, Cloverfield style.
He looks CGI crapola. And so does the rest of the movie. Unbelievably, it looks worse than Ang Lee’s film in nearly every department and you really have to wonder if a good Hulk movie is even possible in this current film climate.
I’m stunned Universal have made the same mistakes again. You have to wonder if it would have been more effective just having a real guy, ala Lou Ferrigno (best on screen incarnation of the character for my money) play the character on screen and not CGI him. BETTER YET, this movie maybe should have gone the motion capture or animated avenue, maybe then we might actually get a massive sized Hulk that doesn’t look ridiculous.
Nothing works here. Edward Norton’s a fine actor but he’s totally wrong for this part, especially the way he is playing it. He does not for one minute feel like a superhero, he can’t carry this picture. Liv Tyler is just horrible. William Hurt in that make-up is just weird.
Tim Roth looks good and we haven’t seen this intensity from him since Planet of the Apes but you just know he’s gonna be CGI for most of it. And from the looks of things his CGI Abomination character, looks exactly that - an abomination.
I think we’ve always known that The Incredible Hulk wasn’t going to be able to reach the heavy standards set by the likes of Spider-Man, X-Men or Batman Begins. We also had our reservations as to whether it would be anywhere near as good as Iron Man. But what Louis Letterier and his A-list crew of actors have cooked up here is just hideous.
The movie opens on June 13th. With this trailer, I can’t see it making the money that Ang Lee’s movie made back in 2003. Actually, while I’m here… below is the trailer for Hulk, a film I didn’t like but is on a different level quality wise to the new movie…
Are you going to see this? What do you think of the trailer for the new movie compared to the old one? Should they have even bothered rebooting everything when they are making the same mistakes with actors who don’t fit the roles?
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I agree w/ you 100%-
Comment by shane420SF | March 13, 2008
I think that Norton will play a great banner, because you must remember…..Bruce Banner is not a hero, The Hulk is, they are two separate people. As For The amoniation, you are correct, it is horrible, reminds me of a raw-skinned version of DOOMSDAY for Superman, and all because they didn’t want him looking reptilian. Of Course It’s gonna be CGI, There aren’t any 12 actors left in hollywood anymore, however, noone had a problem with a 15 foot gorilla fighting 10 tyranasaurous rex’s for 8 minutes in 2006 (cause you know those were trained animals right?). In Norton I trust, he hasn’t let me down thus far.
Comment by Madhatt3r | March 13, 2008
I think that Norton will play a great banner, because you must remember…..Bruce Banner is not a hero, The Hulk is, they are two separate people. As For The abomonation, you are correct, it is horrible, reminds me of a raw-skinned version of DOOMSDAY for Superman, and all because they didn’t want him looking reptilian. Of Course It’s gonna be CGI, There aren’t any 12 foot actors left in hollywood anymore, however, noone had a problem with a 15 foot gorilla fighting 10 tyranasaurous rex’s for 8 minutes in 2006 (cause you know those were trained animals right?). In Norton I trust, he hasn’t let me down thus far.
Comment by Madhatt3r | March 13, 2008
By the look of things in the trailer it looks disastrous. This movie will definitely struggle to cross the threshold of being labeled as a good movie. The actors are good actors but one might wonder if they are the right actors for such a movie and yeah the CGI is quite agreeably crappy. Another bad investment.
Will someone tell those idiots to get off the bloody comic book piracy spin!!!!!!
Comment by Roman | March 13, 2008
Madhatt3r,
Yeah but that was Peter Jackson, his creative vision, and his ability to find the right special effects crew to work alongside him which allowed KING KONG to have scenes like those which worked beautifully for my money.
That was just pure geek cinema. I was totally lost into that battle scene, just as I was with the dinosaur stampede. Jackson has a great talent for this.
Put Jackson on THE INCREDIBLE HULK and he could probably do the same.
But he’s a rare talent. The guys who are actually working on the movie clearly aren’t.
Comment by Matt Holmes | March 13, 2008
you are absolutely correct, Jackson is a cinematical genius, I was jst showing how CGI battles won’t always be a total let down. I had no problem with last year’s SANDMAN battle, actually found the choreography quite splendid. WHat we need to direct this film is someone like me or a Stan Lee type guy. A director with good vision and uttermost knowledge of the books, not just reading 50 or 60 issues. You must read everything, know your character. Peter Jackson Didn’t read half of Lord Of the Rings and say, ” I got most of it down”. But like I said before, You have to CGI the Hulk, Just do the best you can.
Comment by Madhatt3r | March 13, 2008
who called it?
well, this trailer was prettyy bad. Totally novice director, and the whole way they’re going about it is so just lame.
The biggest problem is how we see a puny little person like edward norton transform into fucking bruce lee on steroids. honestly, that’s what he looked like.
Comment by ALK | March 13, 2008
I’m one of the few people that liked Ang Lee’s Hulk.
This new…thing…looks like total crap.
Terrible cast replacements, especially Norton. Bana was perfect IMO.
Terrible effects - did the Sci-fi Channel produce this?
Comment by Josh | March 13, 2008
Matt, you might want to change your link to this…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeNfHsJoM6Y
Comment by Lencho | March 13, 2008
Norton makes a good Banner; he’s very much in the vein of Bill Bixby’s performance from the old television show.
Abomination looks awful, and very cartoony.
The one overwhelming problem I see from this trailer is that we are obviously going to have only one showdown between these two creatures. BAD MOVE.
The common complaint from the first movie was that it lacked Hulk fighting and action. So why waste another movie setting up Abomination in order to bring them together in a street fight at the end??
Trailer is poorly cut, and way too obvious.
Comment by Ray | March 13, 2008
Does anyone know Norton’s stance on the Avengers film?
Comment by Lencho | March 13, 2008
Lencho,
Well he’s never done a sequel has he… Norton’s not a franchise player. Which made his casting in the first place so very strange.
The problem I see in the future is his need to have such a huge input on everything he does. We have been hearing this week that he came to blows with Marvel over the final cutting of the piece.
We know he had the last draft on the script.
When it comes to THE AVENGERS… and a movie with other big players and actors like Robert Downey Jr. and a personality who he won’t be able to control in Jon Favreau… I’m not sure how he could cope in that environment.
But the paycheck would be massive. Even if he’s not the paycheck actor, big bucks are hard to turn down.
Comment by Matt Holmes | March 13, 2008
That’s what I was guessing from all the things I’ve heard about him. Maybe they’ll just have Hulk in the film and no Banner. That way there’s no need to deal with Norton.
Or maybe they’ll actually make the film with mocap and CGI like Penn said they might do.
Comment by Lencho | March 13, 2008
Let’s just forget about this crapfest… and get Ang Lee for the sequel…
Comment by spotgest | March 13, 2008
Lencho, The avengers movie will be eased in slowly. With this, iron man, and ant-man, (3 of the avengers) they are introducing the characters to us all early it seems, so the wanted 2010 avengers flick should be bloody brilliant! Robert Downey jr. has already said he was on board for it, and wave enough money at Norton and he’ll take it. Good Question.
Comment by Madhatt3r | March 13, 2008
I usually hope for the best with films like this, but I have to agree that this will probably be crap. It’s too bad, considering how cool the comic character is, and the acting talen involved.
Comment by cambion | March 13, 2008
I have to say Matt, I think this looks quite good.
And I really like the Ang Lee film, not so sure about Ed Norton though.(Mavel’s probably thinkin’ the same thing from what I’ve read eles where!)
Comment by The Glove | March 15, 2008
I love reading all the optimism from online nerds…
..thats sarcasm by the way.
Comment by Tino | March 16, 2008
Well the world ain’t made of sunshine and rainbows now is it.
Comment by Madhatt3r | March 16, 2008
The more I read about this film, the more it sounds like a film version of the 70’s TV show.
Also, I realized that they have the luxury of not telling an origins story.
Still not sure about how I feel about watching a 26 minute fight at the end.
Comment by Lencho | March 16, 2008
The director clearly said that the CGI effects weren’t finished so don’t be so quick to judge the special effects. They said they’re gonna use similar motion capture techniques that they used for the Silver Surfer, which looked great when finished. And I just don’t get people being down on Ed Norton for this movie, he’s perfect to play Banner imo. I really don’t understand the heavy negativity here about a movie that is still a few months off, try watching it first before you make up your mind that it sucks. I know I’m excited about this movie and think it’ll definitely surprise a lot of people.
Comment by Daas | March 18, 2008
Okay, I agree with most of you, but the big reason this will fail is
that the folks on this movie still do not understand what makes the
Hulk tick. I grew up with the Incredible Hulk. I still own one of
Reissued Origins. I felt the Ang Lee minus the psycho babble was
a better film than reviewed, but this new one drops the ball.
What would I have wished for?….. The Leader. Ed Norton is not
right for this, but even worse, I don’t believe the plot holds
together. It looks simpleminded.
With IRON MAN so well crafted - they did honor the Origin Story - and
Roger Downey Jr. is the perfect Stark. So That’s where my money
is.
Comment by David | April 10, 2008
One more thing. I checked out the link to my name above and it
did not work. So if you click on this one, you’ll get to our site.
Comment by David | April 10, 2008
I didn’t like one aspect of of the Ang Lee film and that was the psycho-babble I-hate-my-father BS they added to give the charactor depth and help explain his mental state. It was too much and should’ve been reserved for a second film. However, the only real threat to he Hulk is the U.S. government, in the form of the Army and that’s what the first fild delivered.I disagree with this review. I like it. it looks darker, meaner a grittier than the comic-book flavored first one and I think that’ll carry this movie. The Hulk is a larger-than-life charactor if you’ve ever read the comic — a man in green paint can’t re-create that on screen just like a stuntman swinging from a rope can’t capture the arial-agility of Spider-Man or a man in a Tin-Man type costume can’t capture the high-tech genius of Iron Man.Norton looks great for this part. Aside from Fight Club, he’s small and wimpy (he has a thin frame and not bulging in muscles). He makes a great contrast to the Hulk, not to mention he’s a fantastic actor. I was dubious about Liv Tyler, but then again I’ll always favor Jennifer Connelly (but that’s just a personal and visual preference :D). No one does a crabby general like Sam Elliot and I would’ve liked to see him return, however, William Hurt is a good actor, I just don’t see him bringing the charisma to the charactor Sam Elliot did.On a side note: when I was a kid I liked the Incredible Hulk TV show, but looking at it with the eyes of an adult, I see it as cheesy and something similar would never make it in today’s television market outside of Saturday morning cartoons; which makes me wonder why everyone’s calling for a movie like the TV show. The Abomination is an abomination, but it’s right there in his name. If you’re complaining that he doesn’t look like the comic and also complaining that the Hulk doesn’t look like Lou Ferrigno, then I’m confused. Are you just impossible to satisfy, or are you complaining just because you’re a habitual whiner? Visially, the Abomination (again, in his name) is supposed to be horrendous; he has to portray something people want to see destroyed, or defeated, much like black hats and dress were to show the bad guys in early films. Hollywood understands what you do not: unlike reading and letting your mind take over, visual entertainment needs to show what the written word can’t (which is why sci-fi books rarely make great movies and comic book movies will always come up short, but that’s my own personal opinion). Whomever wrote the original bog posting here doesn’t seem to understand the difficulty in translating one medium to another and therefore will never be satisfied.
Comment by Jason | April 10, 2008
Uh, hello, the Bruce Banner character isn’t supposed to look like a superhero, that’s the whole point, he’s a wimpy dude. The Hulk is the superhero. I think you’re getting this movie confused with the 1989 Batman Michael Keaton casting issue.
Frankly the trailer was so short, I think it’s quite premature to make any judgment of the movie. I’m stunned at how confidently dismissive of the movie this “review” is, given all you have to go on is a 10-second clip.
Comment by Andrew | April 11, 2008
I persoanlly think that this mvoie will rock, although you all seem to disagree, everything about it rocks
Comment by fizzy | April 14, 2008
Who said the fight betwee the Hulk and the Abomination will be at he end? It might be in the middle. Who knows for sure???
Comment by Jack | April 16, 2008
Well I definetly agree with you on the cgi, it looks terrible…but theres no way that it is finished, how in the world could it be when it doesnt even look as good as the cgi from the Hulk 2003? But as for the design of the characters i like it. The Hulk looks more like the comics, thats what he suppose to look like. I appreciated Ang Lee going for realism by just kind of blowing up Eric Bana but it just wasnt the hulk, it was a blown up version of eric bana. the hulk is a different entity, he isnt suppose to look like bruce banner. And if you learned anything from the first hulk movie its that you cant judge a movie based on the trailer, the trailer for the first movie would have you believe it was non stop hulk action but it wasnt. Im excited to see the finshed product and i hope its good.
Comment by jeremy | May 4, 2008
The Ang Lee version of what the Hulk “looked like” is more faithful to trh e”look” of the comic book. This new version loks teribel and cheap; well you got that loser Zack Penn doing it — he must of been on drugs when he cooked this one up- I owuldnt be surprised if this ruins his career.
These Guys are really stupid…they NEED to stick to the Stan Lee/ Jack Kirby narrative…it was sheer genius then and it would be sheer genius now.
It’s the Jekyl and Hyde aspect that fascinates people. The contrast betwen a wimpy “cerebral” Banner whose personality is aversive to any type of violence yet his sublimination of such primitive impulses dominate his life through a cosmic irony that he seeks to escape.
They need to keep the origin of the atomic Blast Gamma bomb …it is a huge mistake to modify the story, and they need to develop that “Banner cerbral”/ “Hulk primitive impulses” to problem solve aspects.
I wish I could make the film…tired of seeeing this weird new crappy version they are trying to promote; its worse than a Saturday morning cartoon
Comment by James | May 12, 2008
And I think ill be the first to say this…I think the abomination looks awesome. I know it doesnt look like he did in the comic book but I still think he looks bad ass. Like jason said, he fits his name, he looks like an abomination.
Comment by jeremy | May 18, 2008
People cannot really expect the CGi to make the HULK look real, I’ve seen the big statues they have in all the theatres and it still doesn’t look real. The Hulk is one of the (if not he most) complex character’s in the Marvel U. So of course not everyone is going to be completely satisfied with him no matter the outcome.
Comment by madhatt3r | May 18, 2008
The CGI was the main problem with the first HULK movie and its still the MAJOR problem with this one. a CG Hulk could be done right.. it just hasnt yet. Its like comparing Gollum to Jar Jar. People said its just the nature of The Hulk and “he’s one of the complex character’s in the Marvel” PLEASE… Visually he’s just a big (ok HUGE) green humanoid and should be animated like one. The problem is they’re trying to animated him like a cartoon and he looks out of place in live-action.
Comment by Brandon | May 20, 2008